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I'm leaning towards taking the points with Colts, as I can't determine an outright winner.

What's the consensus here?
 

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You will not see a 3 on this game. I see 4 and 4- out there now - it will not drop below 4.

The public is going to be split on this game. TB, defending champs and impressive Monday night win in week 1, but then you have Indy undefeated and off of an incredible prime time performance. There will no consensus side tonight - it will be about 50/50.

With that being said, I lean towards Tampa and Under. I will either play those sides or lay off.

Best of luck.
 

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I took Colts -170 moneyline I think they are that team of destiny this year, the Bucs offense only managed 6 pts. against Carolina and I think that is a better indication of their offense. Colts will have the second best defense they've faced this year. Plus you have to think Dungy would love to win this game.
 

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Monday night always the toughest game to pick, logic says the defence is a wash, the offence is all indy, but the colts or undersized ion the nmiddle which may mean Alstott could be a key. I like the under. One thing for sure though 2 more drafts and the colts will have the most dfominate defence in the NFL. They alreasdy or the fastest.
 

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What kind of logic says the defense is a wash? Tampa has been the best defense in the NFL for 3-4 years, and most of their stars are still in their prime.

I'll admit, Indy's defense has been tough. But they've only played four games, and three have been against Cleveland, Jaxville and Nawlins.

Not sure how you can compare 3-4 years with 3-4 games.

I'm not sold on Tampa's offense. However, Peyton isn't exactly the most mobile QB in the NFL. Hopefully Tampa can get some pressure and force Peyton to throw some pickles.
 

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Take the Bucs they will win by double digits Manning has trouble on grass!!
 

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I think that the comparison can be made because 3-4 games is much more significant than how teams were over a 3-4 year period.

An even better analysis would be to look at who the defenses faced over those 3-4 games.


Tampa opponents scoring
@ Philly 0

Carolina 12
Allowed 4 FGs

@ Atlanta 10
both of atlantas scores were the result of short field position (FG in 2ndQ 38 yard drive, TD in 3rd Q 2 yd drive [result of a 37 yd fuble return]]


Indy opponents scoring
Cleveland 6
2 FGs

Tennessee 7
(The titans 1TD was the result of a 38 yd short field drive due to a 37 yrd kick return [from the 8yd line] and a 10 yd penalty on indy - during the kick return after Indy's FG)

Jacksonville 13
(Indy entered the 4th quarter with a 17-3 lead)

@New Orleans 21
(11pts allowed in 2nd half that indy began with a 24-10 lead [8 in the 4th quarter])


I dont see anything that makes one team's D stick out over the other looking at the summary of opponents scoring. And I think that the opponents were about even - but if anything I think that since Indy has played 4 games they have had more of a chance to prove themselves as a D - and also to make mistakes - which they havent made many.

A banged up and off kilter philly team in week 1 wasnt really such a great win for tampa, the loss to carolina reinforced the fact that their offense can't score, and the win over atlanta either shows that Sapp is gonna be a wideout now or that anyone is better at offense than the people they have in there.


Defenses - at least against the teams they've played - are in fact about a wash - and the indy offense has done more than the tampa offense.
 

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